Duchess Meghan opens up about wanting people ‘to hear her’ in new interview

By Zach Harper

In a rare and emotional new interview, Duchess Meghan has opened up, saying she’s not worried about being liked and just wants to be heard and understood by people.

Meghan sat down with the Telegraph’s Bryony Gordon just before the Duke and Duchess of Sussex’s documentary with ITV journalist Tom Bradby aired, their conversation has just been published. In it, Meghan spoke to the host of the publication’s Mad World podcast about how she’s been feeling since she, Prince Harry and Archie Harrison returned from their royal tour of southern Africa.

“Her eyes glistened when I asked her how she was,” Bryony wrote in her piece, adding that the new mom is in the middle of “weaning, feeding, an almost permanent state of exhaustion” since Archie was born in May.

Bryony’s interview opens with Meghan comforting Tanya, a woman whose ex-partner is now serving a prison sentence for stabbing her. Tanya was crying when Meghan met her at London’s Luminary Bakery earlier this week, and the caring duchess immediately leapt into action, offering reassuring words about the importance of healing and how it doesn’t happen all at once.

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“I was talking about this with someone the other day,” Meghan said to Tanya, according to Bryony’s piece. “We get into this habit of wanting things done immediately nowadays. There’s a culture of instant gratification, of the instant fix. But we aren’t mechanical objects that need to be fixed. You’re a wounded creature that needs to be healed, and that takes time. And that’s what I love about this place. It gives you the support to heal.”

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Earlier this week The Duchess of Sussex visited the women of @LuminaryBakery as they celebrated the opening of their new location. It was a special moment to acknowledge the spirit of Luminary and their remarkable business model that opens its arms to women from vulnerable circumstances (be it abuse, poverty, trafficking, marginalisation) and equips them with the job skills and confidence to succeed. Having sat down with @luminarybakery at their flagship location earlier this year and from that inspiring visit choosing to feature them as #ForcesForChange in the September issue of @britishvogue, Her Royal Highness was proud to be invited to attend the launch of their second bakery. This addition will enable the organisation to provide services, support and mentoring for four times the number of women. Luminary Bakery - a sustainable grassroots organisation in the heart of London - is a beautiful example of community and uplifting those during hardship for the greater good. If you find yourself in the area, please visit and support the women of @LuminaryBakery to enjoy their delicious baked goods and to see the impactful work they’re doing. Video © SussexRoyal

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Luminary Bakery helps vulnerable women who’ve dealt with abuse, neglect, sexual assault, trafficking and other forms of marginalization and violence learn new skills and sets them up to find work by teaching them how to bake, manage budgets and more. Meghan helped them celebrate the opening of their second location in Camden. While there, she gave a speech and cut a celebratory cake.

“I find that when you strip all the layers away, as people, and especially as women, we can find deep connection with each other, and a shared understanding,” Bryony quotes her as saying at the event.

Bryony has done many interviews with the Royal Family, including a famous one with Harry in which he opened up to her about his mental health struggles and issues he’s faced since losing his mother, Princess Diana, at such a young age. In her new piece, Bryony writes that it was Meghan who encouraged Harry to open up about what he was going through and what he’d dealt with.

“If I have learnt anything about Meghan in the time I have known her, it is that she is a doer not a wallower,” Bryony wrote about the couple’s recent events.

“She lives in the solution, not the problem. She told me that she didn’t want people to love her – she just wanted them to be able to hear her. I have found that this is what the Duchess of Sussex stands for: using her voice to help give one to people less privileged than her.”

The interview has been published just as Harry has flown to Japan to watch the Rugby World Cup final and it comes a few weeks after comments Meghan and Harry made in the documentary made worldwide headlines. A particularly heart-wrenching clip from that TV special saw Meghan tell Tom she’s found the media scrutiny she’s received very difficult, since it also came at a time when she was just becoming a new mother and making the transition to royal life.

“You add this on top of being a new mom or trying to be a newlywed,” she said in the documentary, before trailing off. “Yeah, well, I guess… and also thank you for asking because not many people have asked if I’m ok, but it’s a… very real thing to be going through behind the scenes.”

“And the answer is… would it be fair to say, not really ok? As in, it’s really been a struggle?” Tom asked.

“Yes,” Meghan said.

Since then, Meghan has since received a letter of support signed by 72 women MPs in the UK, along with supportive comments from Justin Welby, the Archbishop of Canterbury, who said he is in favour of the couple’s reported plans to take a six-week break from royal duties this month before returning to the UK for the holidays. Meghan personally telephoned Holly Lynch, the Labour MP from Halifax in West Yorkshire who wrote the letter, to say thank you for the gesture.

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